Monday, September 26, 2011

Synergism vs. monergism


Synergism vs. monergism
What is the difference in the two, what makes one more biblical than the other?  That is just some of the questions that could be ask when talking about these two doctrines, but I think that we have to look at what does one mean from someone,  we need to know what the bible is saying about, is man playing a role in his salvation at all? Or is it God alone with the grace that he gives us that brings us to salvation?  
The thing that I think I need to get out of the way and say is that no matter what you hold to if it be synergism or monergism, that does not change were you are in your walk, I would say that if you are truly saved and want to understand the truth of the bible you would find that monergism is the biblical teaching. These meanings that I would say that we need to holding to monergism if we want to be consistent  in are theology, we would need to hold to the bible and not go in to things that make us feel better or smarter than the other ones.  I would put unto you that felling’s will hurt your theology, and in fact make your theology man focused and not God focused.
So what is this synergism and what does it say or mean to ones theology , will synergism make my theology man focused, and will it in the end lead me to use my felling’s and not what the bible tells me?  Well I will answer that in this blog. So let’s get started on this part, what is synergism, “synergism
an ancient heretical doctrine, extant since the 3rd century, which holds that spiritual renewal is a cooperative endeavor between a person and the Holy Ghost. Cf. Pelagianism, Semi-Pelagianism. — synergist, n. — synergistic, adj. and
syn·er·gism  (snr-jzm)
n.
1. Synergy.
2. Christianity The doctrine that individual salvation is achieved through a combination of human will and divine grace.
[New Latin synergismus, from Greek sunergos, working together : sun-, syn- + ergon, work; see werg- in Indo-European roots.] [1]” so we see that we have to different views on what synergism in, so what one is the, well I would say both are right in part. But not in full to get the right view in full you need both of them. And that is because you need to know what it is to be a or know what pelagianism is . to know what it is go to my blog on this topic[2]. So we need both in full because of this, we need them both because, if man has this free will that knows good we must then say that man is not wicked above all, and that would then go in oppastion of “Jer 17:9  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?” along with many other verse in the bible. With that we would then be in the heresy of pelagianism. So with synergism we see that we have to first go deny some of the word of God or we have to put in our own feelings in to what we want it or think it is saying and not going by what it says. Thus how would we use how we feel rather then what the bible says?  Well that is in fact very easy to do, and is something that many do and don’t know that they are doing it. When we start reading the bible and come to a verse and then before we know what its meaning is or anything like that we are, within are self, making it say what we want it to because we might not like what it has to say. Let’s look at one of the verse that many will do this with,  “2Pe 3:9  The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” Now many will say look see it says that God does not want any to perish, and we will jump and say, see Christ died for all, and with this we now have a problem because there are other verse that would go and say that he did not. But I want, to show you the right view of this verse in the context of the book it is in.
“So we come to the one verse that I think the reformed theologians have been giving the right view on this verse for years and yet with no prevail they do not get it across to the other side thus being they are using bad hermeneutics. So, “2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” So what it is that we need to get from this verse, well it is some key words in this “toward you” I want to hone in on, but we need to first set the context before I can dig in to the the text of 2 peter 3:9, and thus we need to go to the  2 peter 1:1 to get the context of the book. “2Pe 1:1  Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:” so what is it that I want to look at in this verse? Well the context of this book is to who? The context is to the elect the church, and how so? Well we see him say this in the text “To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:” so if the context is to the ones that have obtained a faith of equal standing. But who is this equal standing to? Well it is the equal standing of righteousness of our God and savior Jesus Christ, so the letter is to the ones that have the same righteousness as Christ. Thus not able to be backed for the view that it is for all. And thus the verse 2 peter 3:9 will now be able to show you, it in the context it should be. So again I will repost the verse of 2 peter 3:9,
“2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” So we need to look at the part of the verse that we see are key , “but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” So we see that the lord is patient towards who? towards you, the church and that he is not wishing that any should perish, well any of who, well any of you the church, thus we have this in 2 peter 1:1. So we move on in this verse, so we come to “but that all should reach repentance” now we see that in this we have the word “all” and in the greek we know that is the word “pas” πᾶς,a  \{pas}2a) some of all types  so we in meaning 2a it saying that some of all types, and what is this meaning then for us in this verse? Well it is saying that not all but all in the way of some of all types as in, tride and tounge, and nation. Thus being a fact that not the whole world will have salvation, and thus being of the elect that he wishs that none should go to hell. With this we need to understand that all this is saying that the all is talking about many people not all as in the whole world. Let me ask you this, if you and your friend get a pizza and eat it then when talking to your other friends on the basketball court say that your one friend ate all the pizza, does that mean he ate all the pizza in the world? If you answer with a no then you cannot say that when we see all in the bible that it would mean all all the time. So with all this does this mean that at any part in time all means all at all in the bible? Well I would say yes all could mean all in some parts of the bible. I want to just give you another view in the scripture, were we see the word all but it does not mean all, “Luk 2:1  In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.” So with this did Caesar tax, the Yucatán peninsula, get this tax, or did china get this? Answer this and you will find the answer to the world all in the bible meaning all. So we move on to the book that comes last in the bible, and this being a book that in fact is one of the books that bring on the most, fights with in the Christian world, and thus being a book that is hard for many to talk about without a fight thus being the reason why this book is one that will be all ways having many people going to it  to back there end times view and there are many that come from just one book. But I want to use just two verse in this book that I will be using to prove the ending parts of this backing of this doctrine. The two are revelation 5:9; 22:17, the two will be used in this to help so that from the old to the end of the new God has sent to the world his son to save his sheep only. So lets start with something I think I should say with this book, I am not trying to show a view of end times in this part at all but only the view of the atonement being for the elect. So lets just jump right in, with the first verse.[3]” so with that in the context we see that in fact when are feelings are not in the way they , let the bible talk. But how do I say that this view is saying that man helps God? Well in this view they will say and hold that we now have to make the next move, like lets say, you are handed a piece of paper, and on it you see 3 lines with 3 box next to the lines, the first line has a check in the box on the line that has God next to it, and you get another paper that has the box check next to the line that say devil, so we have a tie for your soul, and you now have to help God in this whole thing because he needs you to choose to be with him or not, but in fact this view calls God weak and not able to save anyone. So in this view we have to give God and the cross the power to save anyone.  
So lets go on to the next part of this monergism, and the same things apply here what is it and does it lead us to a man focused theology?
“mon·er·gism   [mon-er-jiz-uhm]  Show IPA
noun Theology .
the doctrine that the Holy Ghost acts independently of the human will in the work of regeneration.[4]”  so with this view we have no way to stop any regeneration unlike in the other view, the sheets of paper, are not there because we do not need to give the cross any power what so ever. Because we have no chose in this view what so ever. We see this in “Joh 15:16  You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.” The first part of this verse is the key in this because we see that Christ chose us not the other way around, also in romans we see
“Rom 9:11-15  though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad--in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls-- she was told, "The older will serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."  So we see that before the twins were born he had already chosen one for one thing and anther for something different. Thus the twins had no chose in there salvation. So, I want to ask this in this view can one have his feelings about this get in the way? Well the answer is yes and no.  and here is how, we can let are feelings get in the way, but it is in a different way than the past view, and here is how, are feelings can get in the way in thus way, by us saying that anyone of the  view I gave above is not saved because they hold to it, we let are feelings get in the way in this because we are saying that there is no salvation without this view and I would say to someone with this idea in there head that they need, to think about it, because at one point in time they held to the same thing. On the other hand we don’t get let them get in the way because we let the word of God talk for its self. With that we have a very good understanding of what it is saying.
So with the views I have given you, it is now up to you to study out the view in what you hold to and see if it is true.

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